Scott is quite right about the Kyoto protocol being insufficient in and of itself to bring on significant change, but he misses the fact that It's about more than "global warming". Reducing emissions helps tackle all sorts of problems, many of which are proven to have deleterious effects on human health (good science this time), acid rain, ecosystemic services such as forests and fisheries, etc...

Anyway, saying that the Kyoto protocol is "designed to cripple our economy" is a bit paranoid in my opinion. I think we're more creative than he give us credit for. That said, I would hope that voluntary efforts and shareholder pressure will effect the changes we need instead of sweeping treaties and other legislation.

I agree with Mr. Aster. The fact that Card thinks that Kyoto will cripple our enconomy shows just how much of the conservative rubbish he's swallow.

There are more than enough economists who can tell you that green jobs and jobs of the New Economy will more than sustain, and even grow, our American economy.

But again, take a gander at the Bush cabinet. Is Hi-tech represented? Na. What about new energy reps? Na. The majority of individuals on staff made their money elsewhere...not in very "creative" lines of work I might add. So, we wonder why no creative solutions are coming out of this administration?

The canard "that green jobs and jobs of the New Economy will more than sustain, and even grow, our American economy" deserves refutation. It is code language for: central planners, with unerring vision, will decide where capital is to be allocated, where jobs will be created, and how virtuous collective goals can be acheived in the absence of market-based decisions to pursue them.

I guess japhet has a short memory of the failures of past grand collectivist experiments, and no matter how long his memory, he will not recall successes.

See http://www.apolloalliance.org/ for this type of wishful thinking.